November 14, 2006 | Comments: (0)
Red-Gate's Acquisition
I'm at PASS this week and I forgot my laptop cord so I'm blogging from my Treo 700w. Anyway, the big news here, if you haven't heard, is the Red-gate acquisition of SQLServerCentral.com. The story is that Brian Knight and Andy Warren will be breaking off to do their own thing and Steve Jones will be sticking around for a year. Now, I haven't gotten a chance to talk to Red-gate yet to see what they plan to do with the site, but I was involved in a group discussion where the general impression was that a community site being run by a vendor is bad news. A vendor can never be truly unbiased. I know if I ever see a whitepaper written by a vendor I tend to not really even look at it. It's that vendor slant they put on everything. They're usually not as interested in giving you real info as much as plugging their product.
Anyway, that's the news. Perhaps I will be more talky when I'm at a real computer... and after I talk to Red-Gate and see what their plans are for the site and how they are going to eleviate the fears people have with vendor sites. Because can you really have a community site run by a vendor?
What do you guys think?
Posted by Sean McCown on November 14, 2006 12:16 PM
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Although Red Gate run Simple-Talk and claim not to interfere editorially it still has articles plugging their software and I have not seen mention of any other vendors tools.
The purpose of a business is to make money, pure and simple. Steve, Andy and Brian's motivation seemed to be more altruistic as they genuinely wanted a community first and ran advertising to pay the bills.
However, now Red Gate are running the show you will never see comment or advertising from any other vendor as it costs them more than it earns them. Maybe the community don't want to know about new tools but I bet they want their tools to be kept cutting edge. The only way this happens is through competition which is looking less likely as Red Gate will make sure no one sees the competition.
I think it's a great day for Steve, Brian and Andy but a sad day for the community as a whole.
Posted by: Malcolm Leach at November 16, 2006 11:04 AMthx for blogging on this. It's bad news for the sql community.
Red-Gate has already removed banners that advertised competive discounts to their products. So much for "not changing a thing"!
http://www.apexsql.com/blog/2006/11/sad-day-for-sql-server-community-loss.htm
let's hope the community can mobilize in time to reverse this anti-competive deal. the storm clouds are just starting to form on this issue.
Posted by: Brian Lockwood at November 17, 2006 02:16 PMI think you'll be in a much better position to comment once you've talked to Red-Gate. Why do so beforehand?
Posted by: Andrew Clarke at November 20, 2006 01:00 AMFull disclosure, I've written for SQL Server Central, Simple-Talk, and I'm a "Friend of Red-Gate."
That said, this whole thing makes me nervous. SSC is one of the go-to sites on the web for SQL knowledge. It's fun & active. You can get questions answered there. I hope it remains so, but we'll see. Red Gate, as a company, is pretty cool. However, they are a company first and a publisher & community member second. We may see decisions from them that are not in SSC and the communities best interest. Oh well, what can you do?
Posted by: Granted at November 20, 2006 06:27 AMI think taking over a public site by a technology with stakes in the game is a bad idea, no matter how noble the intentions. One can only speculate at the motivation for the move, but it suspiciously sounds like a marketing positioning move.
There are some things that should be left to a community and not influenced by marketing decisions.
Posted by: Jurgen Beck at November 21, 2006 10:11 AMIt's very interesting to see so many popular sites being sold off. It's basically sqlteam left standing eh? hehe
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