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January 10, 2007 | Comments: (0)

Good IT Grammar

One of the things that's always gotten on my nerves is bad grammar. I'm not just talking about the little nitpicky stuff like split infinitives and dangling participles either. I'm talking about the big stuff that's so easy to get right.

When I first sat down to write this post I was going to preach to you about acting like a business professional, and that you can't expect the officers of your company to give you their kind of money when you can't even string 7 words together into a grammatical sentence. However, on further reflection, your board of directors doesn't know any more about grammar than you do, so it's all good. That doesn't mean however that you shouldn't at least try to learn a couple simple rules to make yourself sound more like you've been speaking English for longer than a year or two.

So here are a couple simple rules that you can't live without.

When to use I:
Nobody seems to know when to use I and when to use me. I'm always hearing things like this:

Jim called Tammy and I into the room.
He gave a piece of gum to both Tammy and I.

Those are of course both completely wrong. The grammatical way to say that is:

Jim called Tammy and me into the room.
He gave a piece of gum to both Tammy and me.

OK, so how do you tell the difference? How do you know when to use I and when to use me? Well, it's easy, I is subjective, and me is objective.

What that means is you use I when it's the subject of the sentence, and you use me when it's the object of something... like an action... more specifically, when it's the object of a preposition (more on that in a minute).

So what does that really mean, here are a couple examples.

I like pie. I is the subject.
He gave the pie to me. Me is the object of the action. Me receives the pie.
Tammy and I like pie. This time both of us are the subject.
He gave the pie to Tammy and me. This time both of us are the object.

So the easy way to know when to use I or me with multiple subjects or objects is say the sentence to yourself first with you as the only participant. Now, whatever you use with only yourself in the sentence is what you use with multiples.

So if you say:

I like pie. Then you have to say...
Tammy and I like pie.

If you say:

He gave me some pie. Then you have to say...
He gave Tammy and me some pie.

You could never say:
He gave I some pie.
Therefore you can't say:
He gave Tammy and I some pie.

OK, I was going to give you a couple more, but I know how people tend to glaze over when you start talking about grammar.

Take this one and see how you do with it. If you like it, let me know and next time we'll work on who and whom.

Posted by Sean McCown on January 10, 2007 07:02 PM


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I have to agree. Good grammer makes you sound more professional. Bad grammer can sink a proposal, for instance.

At the risk of shooting fish in a barrel then, here's a couple of suggestions.

I think you meant to write "difference" instead of "differene". I also think you meant "I is subjective, and me is objective", instead of "I is subjective, and me is subjective".

All good writing strives for clarity and understanding.

Posted by: Brian at January 11, 2007 07:54 AM

Split infinitives aren't always wrong. The rhythm and flow of the sentence dictates whether or not to split an infinitive, not an arbitrary rule. Refusal to split and infinitive can lead to really awkward sentences.

For those of us who aren't always able to break down a sentence technically, the decision to use I or we is simple: get rid of the extras and see if the sentence sounds right. "He gave a piece of gum to both Tammy and I" simplifies to "He gave a piece of gum to I." If that sounds right to anyone they'll never get it anyway, and your grammar lesson will be wasted.

Posted by: KAB at January 11, 2007 08:09 AM

You could do something on redundancy, too (not grammatical, but annoying all the same).

This one took me less than a minute to find after reading your article:

"According to the companies, all annual subscriptions to their business class web hosting plans already *come with* two months free *included*."

http://www.webhosting.info/news/1/sjk-hosting-unveils-annual-subscription-discounts_0112077004.htm

Posted by: Milan Davidovic at January 12, 2007 11:57 AM

Bravo! As a manager, I assume a lack of professionalism and care in general communication is not an isolated event. This sloppiness spills into all aspects of someones performance. After all, if an individual cannot master their primary language, now can they be expected to master a programming language.

Posted by: Michael Hodes at January 14, 2007 03:27 PM

i have a question.

if you're showing pictures to someone and you stumble upon a picture of you and someone else, let's say Steve, and the two of you are at the zoo.
do you say:
This is Steve and I at the zoo [because 'I at the zoo' doesn't make sense]
or
This is Steve and me at the zoo. [because 'This is me at the zoo' makes sense]

Posted by: kim at June 10, 2007 07:04 PM

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