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February 07, 2008 | Comments: (0)

Still Just Disappointed

OK, I downloaded Visual Studio 2008 a couple weeks ago. I've got a couple AJAX sites that I wanted to start working with in the new environment. I also wanted to get more involved in LINQ.

However, I'm still just disappointed in VS08. It's got some decent features as far as deployment goes, but man, this thing is still just dog slow on vista. I don't know if the problem is vista by itself, or the combo, but it's quite often just a beating to do anything.

A good example of this is sometimes I will make a small change to a page. Maybe the text on a label has a couple transposed letters. So I'll go in and switch the letters and hit save. Now I'm waiting for no less than 2mins while the GUI freezes up and gives me the hourglass because it's trying to workout all that heaving coding I just did. Typically I code at night and something similar to this happens several times in a single coding session. I had the same problems in the last version so it's not like it's anything new, but I was really hoping for more this time.

Well, and like I said, this may have more to do with vista than anything else. I haven't tried it on XP yet. But I did (and still do) have very similar problems in VS05 on my XP box, so my gut tells me it's not all vista.
However, I created a new folder yesterday on my vista box. It's a very simple operation. I typed in the new folder name and hit enter. Then I waited for what I timed 2.5mins for it to unfreeze the window before I could do anything at all. Vista's not exactly a speed demon but it shouldn't be doing stuff like that either. I've got a lot of the cool stuff turned off because they brought down my box too much. And vista still performs worse than Win95 ever did. That's sad isn't it? Win95 actually performed faster than vista. Vista's got so many cool features, but most of the time it pisses me off so bad I just wanna throw it out the window. And my vista box isn't a piecer. It's a very beefy box with tons of RAM. So it should be able to handle vista w/o too many issues.

What brought this up was the launch later this month. I'll be going to the big launch in L.A. and I doubt any of this will come up. Maybe I'll be lucky enough to run across someone on the VS or vista teams that I can complain to. Because frankly, I'm just disappointed in both of these products and if Longhorn has the vista core, what are we in store for with our mission critical apps if we put SQL or Exchange on it? This is a valid concern since everyone I talk to almost has vista performance problems.

Posted by Sean McCown on February 7, 2008 06:30 PM


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Sean, are you using a wireless connection by any chance? In my testing of VS08 I found web site update speed issues on a Vista for x64 laptop using a wireless connection.

I've seen similar issues with Dreamweaver on a laptop over a wireless connection.

In all of those cases the speed was much better when I plugged the laptop into a wired ethernet connection.

Posted by: Martin at February 8, 2008 07:44 AM

Sean,

MS JUST released a patch that sounds like it has a good chance of addressing your issues:

http://blogs.msdn.com/webdevtools/archive/2008/02/09/downloadable-hotfix-performance-and-editor-fixes-for-microsoft-visual-studio-2008-and-visual-web-developer-express-2008.aspx

Posted by: Michael K. Campbell at February 8, 2008 05:22 PM

We recently announced a hotfix roll-up (a collection of hotfixes) that will likely improve the performance issues you're seeing. Check out Scott Guthrie's blog for more information - http://weblogs.asp.net/scottgu/archive/2008/02/08/vs-2008-web-development-hot-fix-roll-up-available.aspx

Posted by: Dan Fernandez at February 9, 2008 01:44 AM

Nothing like pay good money for an OS just to find out it makes your PC slower than the PC you bought 8 years ago.....

I stopped trying to develop in VS a while ago when I got a chance to use Eclipse and Ruby on Rails.... VS seems so backwards for me now.... VS has never really changed to help the developer be more productive.... It just seems to be following the MS Bloat tradition.... MS must release a new version every couple of years to keep the MSDN subscriptions coming.... 3k a year for what.... A new date on the flash screen when loading a VS project..... Heck this version of VS2008 really has nothing in it to help build Vista applications..... you have to download plugins and make huge code work arounds just to make the UAC funtionality work within your own applications..... They even force you to use older API calling conventions to use the New Vista features.... WTF..... Anyway....I am just steamed that I paid 3k for my MSDN sub....can you tell....

Posted by: Paul at February 20, 2008 10:44 PM

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