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January 29, 2007 | Comments: (0)

Internet Explorer required

Last week, I moderated a Web cast using On24's service. It went well enough, but On24 dealt me a surprise coming into the conference: Its conference coordinator informed me that the participants would have to use Internet Explorer on Windows.

I told On24 that I live on a Mac and that I considered an IE/Windows-only policy not only impractical for me, but not a great idea for their business. The On24 coordinator replied, with no attitude about it, that if IE/Windows gave me a problem, I could skip using the Web client at all, dial into the voice conference and give verbal cues to have my slides advanced. Fly Windows or fly blind.

That's a bit dark ages, isn't it? Surely an outfit of On24's stature wouldn't take the low road with its browser-based client.

I want to establish that I'm not ragging on On24 (see the end of this post to understand why I let them off the hook). Rather, I'm using this to illustrate what I consider to be a serious issue: Users of browser-based applications and services cannot allow the reemergence of the proprietary, platform-bound approach to Web apps that caused the failure of prior efforts in that direction.

As you can imagine, On24's insistence on IE/Windows pushed so many of my buttons that I had to choose between going off and letting it go. I chose the latter course with my desire for continued employment being my primary motivator. For me, Windows is an occupational inevitability. Since Apple treats Windows the same way, I feel no sense of guilt about giving in.

Now we arrive at the twist in this plot: It turns out that On24's client interface does support OS X, and Linux, too. On24 should be bragging about that since such flexibility is lacking in most of its competitors' services. Finding no collateral expressing On24's system requirements, I located On24's compatibility test and I'll use that as the last word on the issue. When I ran the test on a Core 2 Duo MacBook Pro using OS X 10.4.8 and Apple's Safari browser, the test fails. I expected that; Safari is rarely a validation target for commercial browser front-ends. However, the OS portion of On24's test reported "Passed," and offered some helpful advice:

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When I ran the same test using Firefox 2.0 on OS X, I got green lights across the board:

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Instead of hand-validating against all the OS/browser/media player combinations I could imagine, I looked into the Javascript code that validates the user's environment. Here's On24's OS test:

if ( is_win2k || is_winxp || is_winvista || is_macosx3 || (is_linuxredhat9 && (paramObj["linux"]+""=="true"))) os_ok=true;

That's reasonable. Solaris is missing, but On24 lists Sun Microsystems among its VIP clients. If Sun's okay with that, I am. Later in the source, there's this:

if (is_ie5_5up || is_nav71up || is_fx) browser_ok=true;

If On24's HTML, DOM, XML and Javascript code targets the overlap among FireFix ("fx"), Mozilla/Navigator and IE 5--Microsoft's least ick-laden browser--then the major rules are respected.

if(is_fx) windowsplayer_ok=false; //for firefox, don't show windows media

Bonus points.

Most companies brag about doing the right thing. On24's conference coordinator told me that his employer doesn't. There are lots of possible explanations. Maybe InfoWorld used Windows Media content; it's canned before I see it. Perhaps the On24 coordinator just laid out IE/Windows as a requirement to avoid having to nursemaid the non-savvy through their connections.

Whatever the case, eschewing platform-specific implementations in favor of standards is a differentiator for services. If you've got it, flaunt it. If you marry your Web app to a browser or OS, your clock is ticking.

Posted by Tom Yager on January 29, 2007 02:24 PM


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I generally have the same complaint about companies not offering cross platform support, but the other day I was thinking about iTunes and Quicktime and realized that Apple only supports the Mac and Windows. Ironically, after a little bit of searching, Linux users can run both if they use codeweavers.com Crossover and run the Windows version!!!

Posted by: spartian at January 29, 2007 03:10 PM

You make a very good point and unfortunately, too many companies give us the less secure IE only policy.

I work in real estate where Microsoft has also successfully pushed out Mac a few years ago, even though Mac had a stronger foothold and much to our hassles now, i.e. incessant updates, upgrades and vulnerabilities.

Try getting on an MLS with Firefox in either Apple or Windows. No can do. When I asked the MLS companies why, they gave me the usual silly talk not knowing I was computer savvy.

I tried Explorer on Mac but it was so archaic that its java technology couldn't handle anything.

Guess who benefits? You need to get an emulator, and a Windows license just to use your work tool. More revenue for Microsoft for a less than secure product. Makes no sense.

Any serious company that sells web based software should at the very least include Firefox if they wish to be seen as credulous and seriously think about adding some Apple features.

Posted by: Nick at January 29, 2007 06:22 PM

It's funny that you should bring this up, Tom. I work in the mortgage business and in testing our ASP's and vendor apps with IE7, we've broken a whole lot more than worked. So when I read about Mac users like yourself having problems with IE-centric companies it doesn't surprise me.

That said, I constantly question the whole Enterprise Mac premise. Apple seems like it constantly positioning itself as a consumer technology company and in niches like graphic design. We have Mac's in our enterprise, but I have trouble seeing a all-Mac enterprise; just like I can't see an all-Linux enterprise until the vendors can come up with a consistent desktop OS and GUI.

Posted by: Terry Constable at January 30, 2007 04:11 AM

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