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February 28, 2007 | Comments: (0)
A Pioneer collides with Metropolis
Dear Bob ...
Referring to this week's Keep the Joint Running, ("Office biogeography," 2/26/2007), just yesterday I was put on "Administrative Leave" because I am a "Frontier Person" (aka, Pioneer) living in the corporate equivalent of New York City.
I think it would be interesting and very beneficial if companies both recognized what kind of "Environment" they were; clearly state that in the hiring process; the type of citizens they wanted; and probable consequences of miss-match.
Not to be unduly harsh, but the "City" usually breeds a "Gestapo" mentality, where everyone not in lock-step with the "Zero Tolerance" mentality faces the full weight and oppression of the organization for even seemingly trivial deviations. I've know for years that "Pioneers" are easy to identify. They are the ones with arrows in both the front and the back.
Back around '85, H. Ross P. compared EDS and GM. If an EDS Manager spotted a rattlesnake, he'd shoot it. If a GM Manager spotted a rattlesnake, he'd form a committee to study snakes.
After over 40 years in business, I know what I am. Unfortunately, I didn't realize how rigid my company was. Maybe this way of looking at businesses will help warn others away from a potentially bad choice.
- Pioneer
Dear Pioneer ...
At the risk of losing a friend, I'll point out that you'd find some value trying to understand the other side. People are as they are for good reasons. Frontier and Metropolis are different, not because one is better and one is worse but because each is adaptive to particular situations.
So to you, Urban living breeds a Gestapo mentality. To city-dwellers, Frontier living breeds a to-hell-with-you mentality - the mentality that leads to using one's backyard as a garbage dump because "it's my property and I can do what I like on it."
Which might be just fine in rural Nebraska (I don't know, not having lived in rural Nebraska), but is unacceptable in the Bronx.
I completely agree that during the interviewing process, both parties should spend time discovering whether their styles are compatible.
BTW: Having worked for Perot Systems I'm hesitant to comment directly. I will say that taken literally this attitude leads to at least as many problems as having committees studying situations to death.
It's the ready/fire/aim mentality, and it results in draining the swamp without first assessing the environmental impact.
Which is how we've ended up having such bad flooding every time we have heavy snowfalls and spring rains nowadays.
- Bob
Posted by Bob Lewis on February 28, 2007 05:19 AM
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The definition of a pioneer is usually in the mind of the beholder. Pioneers were sometimes hard working citizens bringing order to land that had never been tamed. They longed for civilization to catch up with them. Other pioneers were desperados who lived on the edge because they were accountable to no one and liked it that way. They usually were hunted down and killed by a posse.
I wonder what attracted this person to the job in the first place? Was it the flattering words of the HR person? The high pay? The chance to learn something new?
The next time a pioneer gets an interview, he/she needs to find out what the employer feels is important. Is it accomplishments or communication? Is it the blood sweat and tears of the work or the willingness to be a team member/mentor and example to others?
The interesting conundrum is that if you asked companies what they were, their self-visualiziation probably deviates substantially from what they actually are.
I had a friend who astutely noticed, "the labor market must be the most imperfect market in existence." This was an extremely profound statement (which is why I can't/won't take credit for it).
By this quote, he meant that its truly rare for there to be a solid match between employer and employee, and employee to job requirements. At an employer level, people wind up working in environments that aren't suited for them. At an organizational level, the candidate hired into a position very likely isn't the best or most qualified candidate from the applicant pool.
Knowing this in advance may put things in perspective: in the end, its a crapshoot, but one where both employer and employee can tilt the odds slighty in their favor if they do their due diligence and determine if the prevailing culture is a good place for the employee and vice versa. Even then, sometimes it just doesn't work out.
Probably the best thing you can do is leverage your network of contacts, and find where people who have similar philosophies to yours happily and productively work. This might give you the best chance to find a pioneer outpost.
Tom N. is right. They have a VERY different perception of themselves. On one hand, all of the progressive buzz-words: "Open Door"; "Responsive"; "Employee Input is directly responsible for most of our changes and advancements", etc.
On the other hand, and only discovered by painfull experience, in their 'Zero Tolerence' world, they believe that they are justified in treating the breaking of a company-owned drinking glass with the same consequences as breaking a million-dollar piece of company-owned equipment. After all, it is "distruction of company equipment".
I shouldn't be suprised. Our society often treats people who neglect animals worse than people who neglect/kill other people.
Anybody need a Pioneer in New England who believes in, "Keeping the Joint Running"?
Posted by: Pioneer at February 28, 2007 02:09 PMThe "pioneer" vs "the city dweller" isn't unique to IT, it's a common distinction in all of business --- some people aren't comfortable in "the box" and are willing to give up the security of a regular paycheck for the risk/passion of building their own company. As the company grows, it shifts from a passion driven business to a rule driven business. Frequently the owner can't make the transition himself and is forced out --- Compaq and Bill Lear of Lear Jet fame are just two common examples.
Even in the military, not everyone is a rule driven person - the best pilots (and generals) are "pioneers", but the best of many other jobs are "urbanites".
In IT, it really does depend on the company - often, in small companies, it takes the pioneer to push out solutions with almost no resources - bend many rules of process and documentation and so on just to get things done. But it quickly also needs someone more process oriented -- backups, network, first and then, as the company continues to grow (one hopes) more and more rules and processes come to play.
Posted by: Alan at March 1, 2007 06:20 AMI sympathize with this question, and the issues it raises:
- Companies don't know what they need.
- Job descriptions rarely describe the real job.
- Requirements are ridiculous. You want a CCIE to update a dinky firewall? For what reason?
- Networking is great but we're all anti-social geeks...
- Grey hair makes it harder to change jobs.
- But not as much as getting fat and complacent!
I've made a career out of doing what needs to be done instead of what I was asked -literaly- to do.
The challenge is that you can't get people to fund your ideas unless it was their idea to begin with (or your idea is so good that they take ownership of it.)
To the original question, administrative leave is a benefit, if the point is you're being paid to find a better fit elsewhere. So how quickly can you get ramped up to be in the hunt? My experience is it takes a little while to let the sting wear off before you can be comfortable interviewing. And never, ever, speak poorly of your former employer in an interview!
Posted by: Rich at March 1, 2007 07:04 AMIts really important to find the honest people in an interview. If you don't think you find any that can be completely honest, then you know something about the politics and culture.
If you do find such a person, you need to ask them some questions around how things really work.
This is why I believe in complete honesty in an interview - it does no good to hide the politics and "culture" (I put this in quotes because I think at a certain size a company often starts to vary in its units and that causes interesting additional tensions to be aware of - whoops, second time today ending a sentance with a preposition:-) when conducting an interview, as it just makes the whole effort much more expensive.
Posted by: Bob Hays at March 1, 2007 08:09 AMFor what is is worth, the "Administrative Leave Benefit" lasted a day and a half. They discharged me 8 hours before my Health Care was to take effect --- effectively denying me Cobra, also.
I believe in "Process" and I beleive in "Rules". Unfortunately, my generation also tends to believe that occasionally, rules are meant to be broken --- or at least alowed to be bent.
C'est La Vie. They lost more than I did!
Posted by: Carl Cronk at March 7, 2007 02:48 PM
Lessee:
Based on my last trip across town for job interviews:
1) Flying out for a third interview doesn't work.
2) Wearing the suit to the interview doesn't work.
3) Maintaining eye contact, being upbeat, and answering all the questions doesn't work.
I'm not sure what does work, but at least I have something for "lessons learned"!
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