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March 28, 2007 | Comments: (0)

Shai Agassi says "auf Wiedersehen" to SAP

I'm not the biggest fan of Shai Agassi, President of SAP's Products and Technology Group. I therefore think his announced departure from SAP is a net positive for the company. Shai is the one who made the terribly gauche comments about open source. (He narrowly got out of delivering Peter Graf's OSBC keynote which increased the SAP-rubbish-quotient-on-open-source, as Stephe Walli pointed out.)

He was the one who suggested that SAP's budget would atone for its many failings in innovating with SaaS. At least he wasn't the SAP automaton that said this about open source:

It is an option for operating systems and databases but not at the business application level," he said. "There are no open source ERP products that are any good for the high end, although it could be argued that they could be developed for the low end.
It might be true that his ERP business is today safe from open source, but it is emphatically, demonstrably silly in the extreme that open source is not hitting the business application level. This is so clownishly wrong that it almost begs someone to take der Bollo and give him a healthy dose of reality. I work for and advise several open source application companies, and our customers are Global 2000 companies with enterprise-wide deployments of Alfresco, SugarCRM, JasperSoft, Pentaho, etc etc.

Shai is apparently heading to the "alternative energy" sector. Good luck. I hope he learns a bit more about what it means to be disruptive, because SAP is stuck in a mental cloud that causes it to think that its proprietary business will last forever. It won't. Just ask Unix.

Posted by Matt Asay on March 28, 2007 03:15 PM


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Posted by: xiang xu at March 28, 2007 04:42 PM

These are quite caustic comments about Shai Agassi. Certainly SAP should not ignore the potential of open source and SaaS. Matt, I hope you are right about Shai leaving SAP being a good thing for the company!

Posted by: Joe at March 28, 2007 05:45 PM

you are a joker to even comment like this, I wonder if you can even spell TECHNOLOGY right.
Your customers are global 2000.. huh what a premier list.. are u sure its 2000 and not global 20,000 ( that way, all your customers would easily fit in the list)

Posted by: Shan at March 29, 2007 03:42 AM

Your crazy..

In My humble opinion ERP was stagnating, or in fear of it before Shai got there (or they would not have paid him 400mil).. the BIG companies are using XI, NetWeaver.. and reaping the benefits, while you are still developing yours.. and in 2 years you'll be redeveloping yours again to catch up to somebody else. Maybe you'll sale out to get a bigger share of the market. Shai is smart, well funded, and works with some of the best people. The best product may not always win.. but the biggest will. My bet’s on Shai. Everywhere he goes a paradigm shift follows.

[Asay responds: Possibly, "bubba," but I don't compete with Shai/SAP. Not my market. So, SAP may well end up ahead of me, but since I don't sell ERP, who cares? Btw, I'm betting that my top-10 customer list is roughly the same as SAP's. This is why I find SAP's comments about open source business applications to be so laughable.]

Posted by: Bubba at March 29, 2007 07:11 AM

Shan: My company sells into the exact same companies that SAP does. I'm betting that our top-20 customers are roughly the same as SAP's. This is why I find it incredible that SAP would continue to deny the reality of open source business applications. Open source may not be troubling the ERP world just yet (and there are good reasons for this), but it's rocking everything else.

Posted by: Matt Asay at March 29, 2007 07:23 AM

I am sure, YOU ARE IGNORANT. Did you ever think why SAP paid Shai huge money to buy top-tier and made him into board of directors of SAP? Where was SAP standpoint when Shai was not there with SAP and where it is now when Shai entered SAP and introduced NetWeaver stuff? NetWeaver is a buzzword in today's corporate world. Who sowed the seeds for that? Just use your brains man.

Posted by: Raymond at March 30, 2007 04:49 AM

C'mon, Raymond. Who are you kidding. The TopTier acquisition was a disaster. The SAP portal is rubbish, and no way was it a success by any measure other than *perhaps* evidence of a willingness to change SAP's mindset. Odds are that Shai's departure will allow other innovators that Shai's presence has enabled to have their moment in the spotlight, effectively multiplying SAP's rate of change, not reducing it.

"Use Your Brains, Man".

Posted by: ShaiKnower at March 31, 2007 12:15 PM

As a SAP technical consultant with over 10 years experience I must agree that the Java Netweaver introduced by Shai Agassi was a technical disaster. Even after 4 years its still crap because of its 2 GB memory limitation of the Java engine. How can you ever expect to perform large corporate data processing with that ? It is rather like turning the clock back 5 years when 32 bit computing was the norm. I think Shai's failure to deliver stable and mature Java platform is the actual reason for him leaving. It would not surprise me if SAP brings out a Portal based on the ABAP stack soon.

Posted by: Johan at June 1, 2007 12:53 PM

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