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October 30, 2007 | Comments: (0)
Hey Red Hat, where's the love for Hyperic?
Matt Aslett at The 451 Group reports:
"Red Hat and GroundWork Open Source announced an interesting expansion of their partnership today that sees Red Hat offering 24×7 telephone premium support for GroundWork products, as well as the sale of GroundWork training classes."
I, like every one, wondered why Red Hat went with GroundWork versus Hyperic. At first I thought this is just some piece of marketing from GroundWork, but since the press release has a quote from Red Hat, I have to believe someone over at RH thinks this is a good idea.
It seems strange considering Hyperic is the foundation of the JBoss ON product. What's stranger is that Hyperic isn't listed on RHX under systems monitoring providers (only Zenoss & GroundWork are listed). Javier, what's the deal? :-)
A NetworkWorld review said this about GroundWork's OSS product in June 2007:
"In contrast to Zenoss Core and Hyperic HQ, GroundWork Open Source’s free-for-the-download open source network monitoring and management product, called GroundWork Monitor, is quite basic and lacking in features."
<conspiracy_theory_hat_on> The only thing I can think of is that RH is staying away from Hyperic because of Hyperic's VCs. Accel Partners & Matrix Partners are both Hyperic investors, as they were in JBoss investors. It's well within the realm of possibility that RH executives, after paying over $300M for JBoss, are not eager to jump into bed with Accel or Matrix again. GroundWork's VC's don't include Accel, Matrix or Benchmark (where one of the Accel guys jumped to after the JBoss deal). </conspiracy_theory_hat_on>
Thoughts?
PS: I should state: "The postings on this site are my own and don’t necessarily represent IBM’s positions, strategies or opinions."
Posted by Savio Rodrigues on October 30, 2007 12:49 PM
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That's one heck of a conspiracy theory there, Savio!
First, let me clarify. Hyperic's investors are Accel Partners (which you correctly identified as a JBoss investor) and Benchmark Capital (an early investor in RHAT and current investor in MySQL as well as a number of other OSS companies).
Second, I promise you there's no conspiracy. We have a technology OEM relationship with JBoss (and consequently RHAT) which is much different than the Groundwork announcement you list and has been in place for a long time. While we can not provide details on any future plans at this time, I promise you'll see more announcements on this soon.
This particular announcement is about RHAT selling subscriptions and services for Groundwork through RHX (much like they do Zenoss and a bunch of other companies) and not about RHAT 'selecting' a preferred management solution.
Thanks for the props, though!
Posted by: Javier A. Soltero at October 30, 2007 02:12 PMI think the release (http://www.groundworkopensource.com/news/pr/redhat-20071030.html) speaks for itself. The partnership with Red Hat has been a good one for both companies and for our joint customers. We've been successful selling through RHX and now we are adding additional support, product and service options for customers that would like to see these offerings. We think they'll be successful there. Red Hat thinks they'll be successful with us making these available. No conspiracy, simple capitalism at work Savio!
Posted by: Harper Mann at October 30, 2007 05:04 PMHi Harper, Javier, thanks for your comments.
Capitalism at work indeed Harper. Maybe I'm reading too much into the fact that Hyperic isn't even listed in RHX. Or maybe the paint fumes are getting to me this week ;-)
Javier, we'll be waiting :-)
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