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March 17, 2008 | Comments: (0)
H-1B bill would stop use of visa for third party consultants
As reported in InfoWorld last Friday, Representative Gabrielle Giffords,[D-Arizona], introduced an immigration bill,[HR 5630]The Innovation Employment Act that would raise the cap on H-1B visas from 65,000 to 130,000 next year, and set aside the cap completely for foreign graduate students attending U.S. colleges studying science, technology and other related fields.
The bill, if it became law, would increase the cap to 180,000 from 2010 to 2015.
"Section 214(g)(1)(A)(vii) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1184(g)(1)(A)(vii)) is amended to read as follows:
'(vii) 130,000 in fiscal year 2008 and each succeeding fiscal year, except that in fiscal years 2010 through 2015, if such limitation is reached in the previous fiscal year, such limitation shall equal the greater of 180,000 and the limitation applicable for the previous fiscal year increased by 20 percent; or'."
Okay that's the bad new, however, there is some good news as well.
The bill would put a stop to the practice by outsource providers of bringing in foreign workers on the H-1B visa and then using them as third party consultants. In other words they must be employed directly by a company that is not a consultancy.
It would also stop the practice of training them here and then sending them back to their home country to complete the work.
The bill states that you cannout use individuals on an H-1B visa for third party consulting.
This practice flies in the face of why the H-1B visa was created, says Bob Meltzer, CEO of VisaNow, a company that specializes in immigration issues for its clients.
Meltzer says the point of the H-1B visa was and is to support U.S. businesses. Unfortunately, Meltzer believes because 80 percent of the top ten firms that receive H-1B visas are Indian firms this does not support U.S. businesses.
According to BusinessWeek, data from the U.S. Citizenship & Immigration Services [USCIS]--I was unable to find this data for 2007 at the USCIS site--shows that Infosys Technologies and Wipro were the top two beneficiaries of H-1B visas.
Meltzer says that even though there is a lottery system, these companies typically flood the immigration service with so many visa requests that by the law of averages they come out on top.
Infosys has 4,559 approved visas and Wipro 2,567 approved visas.
Further stats from USCIS, says BusinessWeek, indicate six of the top 10 recipients in 07 were based in India and the other two, seven and eight, are headquartered here but have most of their operations in India. The other two are Cognizant Technology solutions and UST Global.
The top U.S. companies that employ H-1Bs are Microsoft and Intel, with 959 visa petition approvals and Intel with 369.
Meltzer’s says that by sending H-1B visa recipients back to their home country to complete the work after training here the intention of H-1B is being short circuited and by extension the U.S. is actually losing U.S. high tech jobs.
Another part of the Giffords bill says that if you have 50 or more employees no more than half can be from the H-1B visa pool.
"(I) If the employer employs not less than 50 employees in the United States, not more than 50 percent of such employees are H-1B nonimmigrants.'."
Now while some may think the bad outweighs and good, let me just say this is a bill that is not even out of committee yet. It most likely will be modified and modified again and again until it comes to a final vote, that is if it gets out of committee.
The bill has no co-sponsors, not a good sign I would think for its future. So who knows the good bits of the bill may resurface in yet another immigration bill while some of the unacceptable items, such as the large cap increase, may be modified down.
I’ll keep you posted.
Posted by Ephraim Schwartz on March 17, 2008 12:29 PM
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Great post. Hopefully the escalator is removed in committee. Also, there are no improvements to the definition of prevailing wage.
What would the bill to address fraud and companies who don't play by the rules? We need not only new rules - but money set aside for the enforcement of the rules. Random audits are a must.
I wouldn't be happy with a higher cap, but I could live with it if ALL of the Durbin/Grassley provisions were included.
And why 50 employees? I think that no company should have 50% of their employees on the H-1b visa. Microsoft and Intel don't come close to that number, and they are the largest domestic users of the program. Have a percent that really means something.
Posted by: R. Lawson at March 17, 2008 01:56 PMI don't think the bill goes nearly far enough. Why allow the 1000's of bodyshops of 49 workers or less be 100% H-1b? How was this exception arrived at?
While it claims to stop outsourcing, i believe it still allows the biggest outsourcers, Infosys, Wipro, TCS, to continue business as usual (40% H-1b and 50% L-1 -- all paid way below U.S. wages)
Posted by: Mr. Kim Berry - Programmers Guild at March 17, 2008 01:57 PMOne thing that often gets lost in this debate, is that even if there were a shortage, which I submit there is not, what long-term gain do we get by training non-citizens to work here for awhile and then take their skills elsewhere. Would it not be better to bite the bullet in the short-term and get the skills up of the Americans already here?
Finally, I cannot help but wonder about the dark desires of the NSA and other shadowy government agencies wiretapping and datamining the American populace. Americans know their rights and often stand for them. Would the whistleblower that revealed the huge computer room ATT gave to the NSA be blowing the whistle if he was a non-citizen subject to deportation.
~aw
so....after all of the abuse is cleaned up, we'll need a doubling of H-1b with an escalator clause
we don't need to worry about whether the laws will be properly enforced, I asked a number of people if they are happy about the way immigration laws are enforced, and they all said 'yes'
although I did ask the question, in SPANISH!
Posted by: Steve at March 18, 2008 09:07 AMYou're just fooling yourself. The fix is in and business owns DC. Nothing will pass that is even in the slightest way contrary to what corporations want to see.
Posted by: Phil at March 18, 2008 01:12 PMYou can count on Congress to fold, spindle, and mutilate this bill until all of the good parts are rung out and all that is left is the endless and unlimited increases.
Mark Twain was right when he said "No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session."
Posted by: FedUp withCongress at March 18, 2008 07:23 PMIt would have been much better if it had reduced the numbers of visas to 1,000 per year.
The prohibition against body shopping will be gamed within days of passage. Any prevailing compensation requirements will also be avoided. And it will be even worse because it will be made even worse in committee.
But a hard and lower cap, eliminating all of the exemptions, would help ensure that only the best and brightest received the visas, would help prevent under-payment to the visa-holder and subsequent under-payment to US citizen workers, and it would give the hundreds of thousands of displaced US citizen workers a shot at striving back toward full employment. The current bill undermines all of that.
Posted by: Bruce de la Vega at March 18, 2008 10:21 PMThe bill is crap for Americans. Lowering the prevailing wage and supporting academia is the primary purpose of this bill. Everything else will disappear or not be enforced. I love the fact that we're flooding the schools with foreigners, paying for them with our taxes (can you say NSF) training them in industry and then sending them home with disasterous consequences for US citizens.
Solution
1. Reducing the H1-B's will directly affect salaries which in turn will increase the number of students pursuing technology
2. Dramatically Limit the RA/TA positions that are paid for with our taxes that go to out-of-country students...
Posted by: jkstewart at March 19, 2008 11:12 AMIf we really need highly skilled workers, why not just create a permanent allowance to have them become citizens if they get a US PhD in a useful skill?
But providing cheap labor for US tech firms is a farce that the H1-B keeps filling.
Especially during an economic recession/depression, we don't need more H1-B visas - we need LESS.
Posted by: Will in Seattle at March 19, 2008 12:04 PMI don't see anything in the bill that would ban outsourcing. The text of the bill can be found here: http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=110_cong_bills&docid=f:h5630ih.txt.pdf
Am I missing something?
Posted by: Russ at March 19, 2008 12:22 PMI was not mistaken. This bill does not ban the outsourcing of H-1B visa holders.
What it does do is expand the number of offenses for which H-1B companies can be punished. One of these new punishable offenses occurs when an H-1B dependent company replaces an American worker with an H-1B worker from another company. This very limited type of outsourcing would trigger sanctions. However, any non-dependent company could still use outsources H-1Bs. Moreover, this type of outsourcing is already illegal. The Giffords bill would merely make it punishable.
Since only about 10% of the companies that use H-1Bs are dependent, this change in the law will likely have little practical effect.
Is there any chance of pointing to where BusinessWeek said what's mentioned in this article? I've been unable to locate any of it. And USCIS sure isn't a helpful site to find this info on your own.
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