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May 04, 2007 | Comments: (0)

If it ain't Barack, don't fix it

We've had some Obama Drama on the web this week. The Democratic contender's campaign has taken over Obama's MySpace page, which was created as a labor of love by Barack backer Joe Anthony in 2004 and grew to over 150,000 friends. After traffic to the site spiked in March, Anthony asked to be compensated for his time in managing all the friend requests. The campaign asked how much he wanted for the rights to the URL. When Anthony demanded $39K, the Obama-lamas pleaded poverty and asked MySpace to give them the URL.

In an interview with MTV News, Anthony said:

"After [asking] my consent [to turn over the page], they originally threatened to delete the profile, but they did say that they needed my consent for MySpace to take the profile from me. I said in clear language ... [that] MySpace does not have my consent to take this profile," Anthony explained on Wednesday. "And of course they did it, and that's why we're here. It's not about the money, it's not about anything else. They took this profile without my consent."

(Ironically, in 1993 MTV.com wrested control of its domain from one-time VeeJay Adam Curry, who'd registered it and built a site back when the Web was purely a geek's playground.)


Barack's MySpace page is now the "official" Obama page, not Anthony's. Anthony's old MySpace page, which no longer features much information about Barack but still claims 151,000 close personal friends, can be found here. Meanwhile, other Barack pages seem to be popping up all over MySpace. There's the United for Obama page (which has 4 friends and looks suspiciously like a scam) and the "Barack Obamaca" page, which boasts more than 20,000 friends, none of whom apparently know how to spell the man's name. My favorite is Barack Lobster, which features the candidate as crustacean and a soundtrack by the B-52's.

There's a word for all this, and it starts with "cluster." (I can't fill in the second syllable -- this is after all a Family Blog.) In one short week the Obama-lamas have ticked off some of their biggest supporters in the blogosphere and made themselves look like idiots. Anthony doesn't come off too well either. Maybe $39,000 was a lot to ask; on the other hand, that works out to about a quarter per supporter -- and probably a week's pay for a top-notch political pollster. In the long run, though, this could end up costing Barack's campaign a whole lot more.

Do you even care if a candidate has a page on MySpace? Let me know by posting comments below or dropping me an email. (And no, I won't charge you $39K to read them.)

Posted by Robert X. Cringely on May 4, 2007 03:00 AM


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This is called "penny wise and pound foolish" (a mot from England, but apt) or "how stupid can you get". Greed will smush you every time.

Posted by: Carolyn Clay at May 7, 2007 10:53 AM

"There's a word for all this, and it starts with "cluster." (I can't fill in the second syllable..."

That's because it would be the third syllable, Bob.

Posted by: John Laudun at May 7, 2007 10:54 AM

Whether a condidate has a Youtube, MySpace, or any other online presence has no bearing on whether is is worthy of the highest office in the land. Heavy-handed tactics will certainly "barack-fire" in the long run. Thank you for your time.

Posted by: James at May 7, 2007 10:58 AM

I was not a Obama supporter but am a Republican looking for someone else to support. Who is right or wrong is not important to me but the inability to understand how the internet helps/hurts a campaign makes me wonder if this candidate can be trusted to make really important decisions. He didn't really lose my vote but will now never get it because I feel I can not trust his advisors and staff to properly advise him so that he makes good decisions.

Posted by: Dave at May 7, 2007 11:32 AM

Just more of the same. I could care less if Bamabomama has a myspace page. I DO however care that they STOLE it from some poor guy who did all the work.

What a way to reward your supporters!

One more lost vote. Not only that but I will tell anyone who wants to listen what a technical idiot Bamabomama is !!

Posted by: km at May 7, 2007 11:58 AM

Stealing someone's myspace sounds like a Carl Rove / George Bush trick... I thought Obama and his cronies were different... One more lost vote..

Posted by: wck at May 7, 2007 12:46 PM

Actually this sounds more like somethings going on in South America. If Hugo Chavez can do this to the "big bad big oil companies" why can Obama be just as heavy handed. Sounds like he has a "good" model.

Posted by: The Colonel at May 7, 2007 01:00 PM

Hey, it's about the branding - we should be able to own our own names for www.Pete's.com sake. I think folks who domainsquat for big bucks should be cluster***ed. The guy should have willingly relinquished the myspace name, if he really was a supporter, otherwise he's a parasitic, opportunistic, hypocritical dog poop. So there.

Posted by: booger at May 7, 2007 01:07 PM

They call it "MySpace", but in essence, the space is of no ownership to the user. I am curious if and how a MySpace could be bought and sold.

Posted by: Humor Blog at May 7, 2007 01:41 PM

With regard to the domain squatting remark: I don't think it's at all a case of someone trying to make "big bucks," because the Obama campaign asked the creator of the page how much he'd be willing to take for the rights to the page. In other words, they offered. It also implies that they recognized his rights and the page's worth to the Obama campaign.

On another note, can you domain squat on a celebrity's name? Privacy laws are different for public figures as opposed to business trademarks, your rights, etc.

Posted by: BigRMV at May 7, 2007 01:42 PM

Personally, I don't care if a politician, or anyone, has a MySpace page.

I think tying your "primary method of information" on a peer-2-peer networking site creates several issues:
1) Overhead maintaining all the sites
2) Potential information mismatch if they aren't all updated
3) Security risks if one site is compromised and false information is sent out.

Better to have a single point of contact and disseminate THAT location on myspace, facebook, Livejournal, random_posting_network.

Posted by: Ian at May 7, 2007 02:41 PM

I heard that Franklin Myspace of the Don't Tread On Me party is running for president and that his staff is going to sue whomever on the internet is camping on his name. His running mate is Virginia Googlehoffer who has similar feelings on whomever is camped on her name or variations thereof. I also understand that the liberal California courts are evaluating as we speak several other petitions for name changes such as from Howard Smith to Howard Microworst or derivations thereof. This could get interesting now that a strong precedence has been set that has the backing of the courts. Kind of brings to mind the small town of Usa, Japan that stamped manufactured goods made in its juristiction: Made in USA. Ain't truth in advertising great?

Posted by: TheTraveler at May 7, 2007 03:38 PM

Does this mean that you tube no longer must pay Joe Anthony for visitors to his (WHOOPS) the Obama web site?

I smell a law suite...

Posted by: eppenetus at May 7, 2007 05:33 PM

This is another example of the heavy-handedness many feel every day - give it to us or we'll take it.

Of course no one asked Anthony to do that work. So if he approached Obama for payment - imho - he was a bit out of line, but if Obama approached him, well that just makes the offense even worse. Either way Obama has no right to go and basically steal this man's work.

It is obvious that Obama recognized the value of the work done and was willing to pay, but he felt the price was too high so he went around Anthony and stole it from him with MySpace Management/Owners being an accomplice to that thievery.

I am concerned that this may be a sneak preview of what an Obama presidency will be like.

Posted by: smdrzal at May 8, 2007 05:02 AM

Latest on Joe Anthony:

Joe Anthony Reaches Out to Politics 2.0 - Joe: "This will take time, but believe me, I'm still working day and night to find the best way forward."
http://hammer2006.blogspot.com/2007/05/joe-anthony-reaches-out-to-politics-2.html

Posted by: Politics 2.0 at May 8, 2007 09:45 AM

What ever happended to the idea of having domains specifically for the GOVernment? Or POLitics? When are you all going to wake up and figure out that domain name squatting is only in your head? It only applies to people who cannot spel.

Posted by: Gene W at May 8, 2007 10:09 AM

Not surprising that Obama lacks the insight to follow or develop acceptable protocol - anything meaningful he accomplishes will be a "first time" effort.

Posted by: GatorBamaBaiter at May 9, 2007 10:25 AM

Clearly he's not just a Hussein in name but also in behavior.

Posted by: JoeMama at May 14, 2007 01:37 PM

"mind the small town of Usa, Japan that stamped manufactured goods made in its [jurisdiction]: Made in USA"

:-)

obama's too old anyways. we've had too many 'geezers' for pres/vp. Clinton's the only one since carter who wasn't 'out of the loop', senile, or plain ol' brain damaged (coke burnout, or however)

when researching your vote, always give automatic 'bonus points' to one of the least known candidates, else we'll keep getting stuck with the *most* heinous of ceo apparatchiks.

~ptt - made on planet earth

Posted by: ptt at May 14, 2007 04:01 PM

Interesting - myspace is the domain name anyone who thinks otherwise is just plain Internet foolish. If a politician has a presence on myspace there is no way in hell I am voting for them. That just proves that they are out there to court the young crowd, and the young crowd in this generation couldn't buy a clue if there parents paid for it.

Myspace is a site for predators - when the world comes to grips with that then it will be abetter place and it is owned by news corp - so Obama is using news corp servers to host his web site - I see a flagrant conflict there. Politicians should be required to be honest. This is not honest.

Mission accomplished Barack!

Posted by: Mikey at May 17, 2007 09:13 AM

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