Apple smacks hackers, hackers attack back

A new Newton would be fine as long as Apple understands the main failure of most PDA's: One- they have crippled software compared to even a bad laptop, and, two, the screens is just to darn small to be really useful.

the screen thing is really the key, ever used the iPhone to browse a real web page? All that scrolling and zooming is just tedious, really really tedious.

Larry

My first laptop? eMate.
My current laptop? PowerBook G4.

A rather large difference but none-the-less, Newton is part of the family.

Welcome back, my old friend.

These whiney, crybaby hackers are an insignificant and useless "lot" of "users" for the iPhone. They don't represent the overwhelming and vast majority of the real iPhone users out there in the marketplace. The normal user of the iPhone, representing the "real marketplace" for the Apple iPhone still have their full warranties intact, apply updates and patches without worrying if the iPhone will be bricked and treat their iPhones like a actual and real "appliance" that they are serious about using and not like a "toy" that crybabies whine about (like the hackers).

Those whiney hackers need to "get real and get a life" for a change. But, that may be too much to ask of them, I suppose. So, that's why you don't find hardly any news, at all, in the mainstream media about these whiney hackers, and they only show up in the "geek forums" that the general public never inhabits.

I keep asking several of my friends "in the public" to let me know if they've ever heard one single word about the iPhone and bricking and hacking in the mainstream media (TV or papers or magazines). They report "nary a word" about it, basically because it doesn't affect the vast and overwhelming majority of the "real" iPhone users (i.e., the ones that Apple intended to sell to in the marketplace).

Tell those whiney and crybaby hackers to "get real and get a life"...

I'm always amused by the Apple champions who rush to defend Mr. Jobs against anything perceived as negative.

Anyone who hasn't seen mainstream news stories about iPhone hacking is probably too distracted by what Britney and Lindsey have been up to.

The gist of the "crybaby hackers" arguement is not that the iPhone is a bad product, but rather that the iPhone is a good product hobbled by monopolistic partnerships. I think Apple would be wise to just create the fine products that they do and let the normal marketplace supply and demand priciples dictate the uses.

Mikaile, is it really hobbled?

Over 90% of iPhone users will tell you it is the most usable and useful mobile phone they have ever used and that they look forward to the refinements Apple will deliver in the months to come. Eventually, I would even like to see apple allow third party developers to write applications for the iPhone but if that does not happen in the first 90 days it is out.....I'm not going to blow a gasket. Hell, it will not kill me if it never happens.

People need to understand a couple things about third party HACKS!!!
1) Because Apple provides no way to install third party applications, the only way to get them on is through a security hole.
2) If good hackers can exploit that hole so can bad hackers.
3) APPLE HAS TO PATCH ALL SECURITY HOLES!

So, those of you with hacked iPhones. You have a known and documented security hole on your phone and don't come crying to apple if a bad hacker takes advantage of it.

Because of this, the loss of third party applications with every security patch apple puts out is guaranteed, until Apple authorizes third party development.

I think Mikaile nails it regarding the Apple zealots who seem to think that ANY critical thinking regarding Apple is bad, Bill Gates is worse than Hitler (I remember having to give the original EvangeListas a lesson in perspective on THAT hyperbole!), and so much as modifying a pixel placement on your iPhone is blasphemy of the highest order -- after all, Steve said we would LOVE web-apps on the phone, right?

Except that isn't true. Starting with the inexplicable lack of Flash or Java on Safari, not to mention the simple fact that native apps look slicker, have more functionality, and run faster.

The ONLY reason those apps aren't on the iPhone is that they really DO reduce security -- the financial security of AT&T. Why pay for extra SMS messages when you can use native chat? (the web chat applications all equally suck on the iPhone). Why pay for calls at all, for that matter, if you can use VOIP?

Make no mistake: I waited in line for my iPhone (only 3 hours, though, so I'm not too peevish) in June, and I can't imagine using another phone. But once I buy it, it's MY phone -- one of the things I hated about Verizon was the insistence that I had to pay to add or remove anything from the phone, even the pictures. Sure, I could have hacked that phone as well, but it seemed too much trouble. But the truly amazing thing about the hacking efforts for the iPhone was how fast they went from obscure command line tricks to a graphical installer that made adding and updating third party applications EASIER than on the Mac.

Funny thing is, right as I was finishing that last paragraph the owner of the company dropped by to pump my brains about an annoying problem re: the iPod classic he had purchased. Apparently Apple has begun to use private key tricks to prevent 3rd party iTunes replacements from syncing music to those devices as well. Why isn't he just using iTunes?

He's running FreeBSD.

Time to take a long, hard look at yourself, Apple!

'Nuff said,

John....

Have you SEEN those crappy phone plans? 200 SMS messages on ALL plans (even the $200 monthly one). Gotta pay an extra $20 a month for unlimited text. Heh...I'll stick with T-Mobile thanks.

Um, did any besides me notice that the "crybaby" rant was posted by Eliakim and that the following response was from Mikaile? How palindromic.

I've always heard it said that you're OK if you talk to yourself, you're even OK if you argue with yourself, but when you argue with yourself and lose.....

yeah, we noticed. Short on vocab(how many times can you type "whiney hackers"?) Long on vitriole. Wonder whose chihuahua bit him this morning?

"Karen Carpenter diet"? That's a new low for you Cringe....

oldphoneguy:

well I was going to make a mary kate/ashley olsen joke, but I wasn't sure the infoworld demographic would get it.

fyi, I'm constantly seeking new lows. it's like doing the limbo, only with a blog. glad I hit the mark.

peace out,

rxc